Tiller spent his life selflessly and heroically assisting women who faced difficult circumstances. His killer, and those who pretend this murder was justified, are not citizens. They are terrorists. Tiller saved the lives of countless young women, and is a hero.
Go ahead and celebrate - it makes it easier to see who here is truly free of moral qualms. This peaceful non-violent physician was shot to death in his church. Your approval reveals that Christianity is on the same path as Islam.
We are a nation of laws, but without brave men like Dr. Tiller, the law fails us.
Tuesday, June 2, 2009
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I doubt the viable babies that he killed - over 60,000 - think he was peaceful and non-violent.
ReplyDeleteIf he was so altruistic, then why didn't he perform these abortions for free? Maybe because then he wouldn't be nearly so wealthy. Do the math - 60,000 abortions over 30 years at $5000 each is about $10,000,000 a year - much more than an OB/GYN makes.
Much easier to be "hero" as you called him when you're so well compensated.
Tiller performed abortions in accordance with the law. Calling aborted fetuses "babies" is great rhetoric, but a poor basis for policy.
ReplyDeleteThe good Dr. was a hero to the women he served, and was known to deliver babies for free if the mother could not afford the fee. His altruism in defending the medical care of women is legendary. This is a man who put his life on the line for his beliefs, and paid the ultimate price in service to others.
There is no doubt that Dr. Tiller's practice was successful, but I don't accept the implication that he was risking his life for the financial rewards. Moreover, the costs of providing care are substantial - you can't assume that income=profit unless you know nothing about math.
What profit Tiller made was spent on improving the care offered, and protecting the legal right to access this care. He did not live a life of luxury.
I do hope that you are not defending the terrorist who killed Dr. Tiller.
First off many of us are questioning whether we are in fact a nation of laws of late.
ReplyDeleteAlso, I know that you visit and blog on conservative sites so I find it hard to believe that you think "conservatives" want to go around killing abortionists. This is simply not true, and notwithstanding peoples' religious fervor, real conservatives are more concerned with the rule of law that most liberals.
Yes, religious fanticism is dangerous, but if we are ever allowed to see the truth of Dr. Tiller's executioner, we may find that he is horribly disturbed.
Religious people do not go out and start shooting abortionists in mass.
However, another point that has been made, is the amount of mileage this murder has gotten on all the liberal blogs and how little has been said about the murder and attempted murder of the military boys in Arkansas by someone converted to Islam.
You certainly sound intellegent. I would love to see a liberal exercise some rational and "fair" thinking on these differences that consrvatives and progressives have without always thinking that ends justify the means.
I remember, in the days when I would have considered myself a liberal, saying to my sister that I wished Hillary had said something more honest about Clinton getting his rocks off in the white house, something which most women could idetify with and not feel so dirty about the whole thing, which I still find very offensive given the rhetoric about how much the left is looking to uplift the plight of American women. She said "the ends justify the means", Hillary has to play the game so she can get elected herself and then be able to do some good.
I knew then that I had to look at myself and come to grips with the mantra of the left.
Yes, conservatives do believe abortion is murder. When my daughter, in my womb, kicked me and let me know she was there, I became pro-life. That was at 3 months gestation.
I also believe that our descent down this slippery slope of abortion, has left us morally bankrupt and we should hold life, all life, including Dr. Tiller and the boys in Arkansas, and all the babies who have not had a chance by choice, in reverence.
I hope that we can all agree that we are a nation of laws. We need common ground, even if it is the barest patch.
ReplyDeleteI certainly don't think that the average conservative is a cold-blooded killer - but a quick perusal of PJM shows that there is a surprising amount of acceptance and support for the vigilante. I have no doubt that the killer was disturbed - the scary part is that so many people sympathize with the murder as if it were not a heinous crime.
The difference between the killing of Tiller and Long is that Tiller was long targeted for violence by the religious right, and had been the subject of violence before. He was a very prominent figure, and his death was intended to have a very specific impact.
Long's death is also tragic, but it doesn't have the back story, or the political implications.
The problem I have with the "pro-life" stance is that you want to make your choice the mandatory one. Every woman is different, and I believe each individual makes the best choice. There are not very many women who elect to abort beyond three months - most do so for extremely good reasons, and I see no value in government intervention here.
Life does not begin and end in the womb - pro-life should mean more than just mandatory forced birth for pregnant women. There are millions of children around the world who go hungry every day. Rather than adding more hungry mouths, shouldn't we work on feeding them first?
I'm not arguing that elective abortion is for everyone, but it has a place in society, and I think taking the right away from women is a grave mistake we should not make.